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Jacobrester posted: 07 Jan at 6:42 pm
There is NOT one currency in the world that is backed by anything…..they are ALL FIAT
alfalfafalafelmafia posted: 07 Jan at 6:53 pm
@Jacobrester
the dollar is backed by the World economy, not the national economy of the USA. That is the difference. It is basically free money at the expense of the rest of the World, not the nantional economy of the USA. Basically, what needs to happen is abolishment of any world reserve currency. At this time, it is the dollar.
pipe360ful posted: 08 Jan at 3:43 am
Should we start speaking chinese? lol. What a bad leaders we have put them in prison for treason.
seattle0002 posted: 08 Jan at 5:51 pm
@Fizmoo Oh sure. Our economy in the U.S. is just great. Have you read a newspaper lately?
awakeminds posted: 09 Jan at 11:25 pm
It’s even higher then $78.8 trillion….
slappymcgroundout posted: 10 Jan at 1:56 am
US GDP was something over 14 trillion dollars in 08. Divide 78 trillion by 14 trillion. I’d hardly call that insurmountable, especially when that 55 trillon in SS/Medicare won’t be paid in a single year. And why do people hold US dollars? Is it because we live in a banana republic with a dictator of the month? Lastly, re dollar as debt, and hyperinflation as well, there’s nothing to stop the govt from taking 1 of every 100 tax dollars collected and burning them to shrink the money supply.
407buddy posted: 11 Jan at 4:26 pm
Sorry folks, you have been had, peed on, scammed and lied to.
WallStreet is rigged and bailouts a fraud, market manipulations,
high freqency trading, flash orders, naked short selling, on and on.
Goldman and Govt are in bed, they set the rules to benefit the few.
Jobs been exported, your labor devalued to Zero to screw you into debt.
Get ready, walk away from your CC cards and mortgage. FICO scores are a
scam to enslave you and keep you in debt. Break away don’t be a sheeple
Protect Yourself
Jacobrester posted: 11 Jan at 4:53 pm
You need to understand that the entire world focuses on the USA……so when you hear bad news about the USa it is amplified 10 times….the world only hears news about Iceland if the default and collapse economically……dont get too alarmed by a bunch of foreigners who hate the usa
freeenterpriseworks4 posted: 14 Jan at 11:37 am
The Free Enterprise Nation was formed to combat this exact type of wasteful government spending. We need the private sector (the REAL foundation of this economy) to unite to become a voting block so powerful we cannot be ignored. There are 5 million small business owners and 115 million private sector employees. NOW is the time.
outwardbounder posted: 14 Jan at 8:17 pm
The real calculation for how long it would take the world to pay for the US debt is 50 years. This is because 100% of their GDP is not available. If the US were to do it, it would take approx 150 years.
407buddy posted: 18 Jan at 9:16 am
OTC Gold and Silver (leasing) contracts and certificates are a fraud
Comex and LBME won’t be able to satisfy physical gold and silver delivery
They will use an escape clause called a “Force Majeure” to withhold physical
delivery if that was demanded from their paper gold (contract) holders
Physically holding gold and silver bullion in your possession is crucial
Past 10 years: S&P down 24%, Ndx down 49%, Dji down 31%, U$D down 23%
Gold up 280%, Silver up 209%. (source: Jesse’s Cafe Americaine)
ExhibitMan posted: 18 Jan at 8:42 pm
If the united states government privatizes Social Security, then all the debts will become neutralized.
ExhibitMan posted: 18 Jan at 8:45 pm
78.8 trillion is not actually a “debt” – it’s just money that should be in the system but not available. They are trying to make you feel that this is the case, but if you look today the money allocated from social security is actually surplus money.
ExhibitMan posted: 18 Jan at 8:47 pm
Fiat money allowed the middle class to grow. 200 years ago you were either rich or poor my friend.
outwardbounder posted: 19 Jan at 12:44 pm
You’re right…kinda… IF the Govt decides not to honor any of the promises/contracts. Only then are you right that the future liabilities don’t become debt. Doesn’t the surplus only last another year or so anyway. Hardly a situation to be proud of. Just keep drinking the coolaide.
outwardbounder posted: 19 Jan at 12:49 pm
There’s no such thing as speaking Chinese. The country of China Speaks typically Cantonese or Mandarin. Learning Mandarin wouldn’t be a bad idea though.
outwardbounder posted: 19 Jan at 12:50 pm
So you don’t know how it works huh.
freeenterpriseworks4 posted: 20 Jan at 11:59 am
Social Securitys predicted surplus for 2009 has dropped from $87 billion to $19 billion. That is a decrease of almost 80 percent. The primary reason cited by Stephen Goss, Social Securitys chief actuary, is the reduced tax income as a result of the high level of unemployment. The actual numbers could be even lower, as unemployment was not predicted to hit nine percent until 2010, yet is already at 9.5 percent halfway through 2009.
freeenterpriseworks4 posted: 20 Jan at 12:00 pm
The Social Security trust fund should have a $2.4 trillion balance, but the government has spent all of that money on other programs, leaving Social Security with funds on paper only. These Treasury IOUs will leave taxpayers repaying their own tax money.
Jacobrester posted: 20 Jan at 1:01 pm
@freeenterpriseworks4 Socail Security is bankrupt ….no doubt about it….it is simple really….americans will have to give up many of their luxuries and entitlements until the budget is balanced and then they can get back on track
Jacobrester posted: 20 Jan at 1:03 pm
@outwardbounder Why you want to go live with a billion poor china men ?
ExhibitMan posted: 20 Jan at 3:34 pm
There’s a reason for allocation reduction. Obama adm. initiated a 350b tax cut. Most of these were targeted at social security and incomes. I mean, even if U.S. borrowed billions from China or Brazil – it is still money that first belonged to the U.S. And I think it’s a good choice that the gov. borrows from them instead of priting the money. If we did the latter, inflation would skyrock.
ExhibitMan posted: 20 Jan at 3:44 pm
Social Security was implemented with money that the government did have in the first place. After WW2, the U.S. had a debt of 120% of GDP, and it the SS survived. The ‘New deal’ was finianced by debt. I mean, how can Japan survivie today with its debt 170% of GDP? The debt doomsday is a myth. There’s one thing that eliminates the debt problem – that is, economic growth.
davidshaz20000 posted: 27 Jan at 7:35 pm
Chinese are fools as US Dollar will collapse so will all Debt of china will be wiped out and china will be left with nothing more then just papers………..US Dollar is the biggest Scam of World! Muslims and Arabs going against USA which means USA will soon loose all grip on world Economy soon……..InshAllah & Ameen
kidwave1 posted: 29 Jan at 1:56 pm
What does one TRILLION dollars look like? All this talk about stimulus packages and bailouts… A billion dollars… A hundred billion dollars… Eight hundred billion dollars… One TRILLION dollars… What does that look like?
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